Some resources for the truth on the Reverend Wright “controversy”…
Posted by MJ on March 24, 2008
It seems “Big media” , Hillary supports, and the right wingers will not let the Reverend Wright controversy (no not “scandal”) die even after Barack Obama’s speech in which he denounced some of Wright’s inflammatory comments (again) and addressed race relations in our country.
I think the main problem besides the inherent racism that is fueling the controversy, most people have not heard the whole sermons of Rev. Wright but only the short clips which are out of context that has been provided by the media
Here is a couple of good videos on illseed found in this post that allows you to hear the whole sermon and puts the Reverend’s comments in perspective…
Now the mainstream media has not been totally irresponsible in covering this story. Ronald Martin, from Anderson Cooper’s 360 blog has been listening to full the sermons and commenting on them.
The full story behind Wright’s “God damn America” sermon
The full story behind Jeremiah Wright’s 9/11 Sermon
Now if only CNN would cover the story like that on the air and not just their blogs.
Let’s not forget about the hypocrisy of the media giving John McCain a pass on the endorsement from Pastor John Hagee who he calls a “spiritual adviser” and also his association with Pastor Rod Parsley. Both are real hate mongers in regards to Catholics, women, African Americans, Muslims and LGBT Americans.
Here is a visual for you on John Hagee that is down right scary…
So what have we leaned now kids? Strong black figures who have opinions are bad and white people who spread hate, well just look the other way.
Now, really can we get back to issues and the candidates themselves now and not the words of their pastors?
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outsider222 said
Amen.
This helps, too. I can’t figure out why this doesn’t get around more:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20080317/cm_huffpost/091774;_ylt=Aq_lH72YCCxOlaE1vskCJXms0NUE
MJ "revoltingpawn" said
Outsider222…
Thanks, that is a must read link.
nicedeb said
Hey, you guys keep right on making excuses for this deplorable, depraved, and disgusting POS pastor. Shout it from the rooftops…the more posts you do on this, the better.
If the Superdelegates think Obama is viable, he wins the primary and the VRWC gets to deal with him this fall….Muahahahahah!!!
MJ "revoltingpawn" said
Nicedeb…
Why not check out the links and educate yourself? Your comment really applies to Hagee better but thanks for displaying the ignorance from your “side”.
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wickle said
Nice, Deb … thanks for throwing in some profanity to help our side sound more reasonable.
MJ –
I think that you have a really good point with the counter-attack on John Hagee. And you’re right that the Right often ignores the inflammatory rhetoric of religious figures. I think that blind spots for allies have infected far too many people.
For example, if I let “Nicedeb” get away with even abbreviated profanity just because her avatar has a cross in it.
http://1truebeliever.wordpress.com/2008/03/22/where-jeremiahs-right/
There might be an element of racism in the way this is being done, it might also be the fusion of politics and religion. Within churches, I know a lot of people who will question your devotion if you step out of line on political orthodoxy. And that bothers me … since I’m not convinced that God is thrilled with the Republican platform.
Between the two forces, there’s a lot more Rush Limbaugh than Apostle Paul being cited in the charge against Wright and Obama, and that isn’t the way Christians are supposed to conduct ourselves.
nicedeb said
You guys are really into the sneer quotes, aren’t you. Okay…I don’t consider an abbreviation a “profanity”. Good grief. What prudish little scolds you folks are.
Why on earth do you people keep bringing up John Hagee? Seriously. Is he McCain’s “spiritual adviser”, “political adviser”, has he been “friends” with him for 20 years? Has McCain gone to his “church” for that long? The answer to all those questions (despite what a bunch of drooling lefty blogs are saying) is no. Repeatedly saying he is McCain’s “spiritual adviser” does not make it so.
Hagee endorses McCain. Big “whoop”. McCain didn’t ask for his endorsement. McCain has rejected his views on Catholics.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-03-07-mccain-hagee_N.htm
I’m Catholic. If I thought it was a problem, I’d be the first one to tell you. McCain probably should have repudiated his noxious views, sooner, but he probably didn’t know every stance the guy had on every issue. McCain’s not terribly “quick”, what can one say?
Should he reject his “endorsement”? Would that be politically expedient? No. Would it be right? Yes. Does this in any way compare to Obama going to that deranged, race-baiting, America-hating church for nearly 20 years, spreading noxious, poisonous lies like:the American government created AIDs to infect and kill black people, and spreads drugs in black communities, etc. etc.; lies that only hurt the people who hear it. This man is Obama’s spiritual adviser.
You can ramble on about Hagee’s noxious views all day long, but you don’t fool anyone into thinking that his ties to McCain are anything but tenuous.
You guys are grasping at straws.
philipchua said
Hi I’ve read your comment on my blog and have responded to it.
However I have some thoughts on this controversy. I agree that Wright has an entirely different relationship with Obama than Hagee and McCain. Before posting I certainly made sure that I watched extended clips of his sermons and certainly not little news-grabbing snippets.
All things said, this is a political disaster. Democrats and Republicans may be entrenched too deeply about their voting decision. In that case, arguing about politicians simply ends up nowhere. As an independent, this is the type of thing that makes or breaks your image of the candidate. I think that is the pertinent issue here. Hence there is no your side or my side, this is simply bad publicity.
kayinmaine said
I thought it was creepy when George Bush exclaimed that God made him attack Iraq. Scary!!! Evangelicals are scary. The End.
kayinmaine said
And remember when George Bush was getting a phone call & a prayer service by Rev. Ted Haggard of the New Life Church every Monday in the White House? Wow! When I found out Ted Haggard was having sex with gay male prostitutes and doing drugs with him, I immediately thought, “George Bush is too!” because ole Teddy was. *shaking head*
Scary.
Dude said
Hagee was never a “spiritual advisor” for McCain, he is merely a pastor who supports McCain. Meanwhile, Obama sits in a church, where the pastor ‘preaches’ about the government injecting aids into the black community and distributing drugs into the community. Well, I got news for you Rev. Wright, White folks get aids to, white folks do drugs, too. It’s ridiculous and it poisons the minds of those who sit in his church and think they hear the truth. I feel the worst for his daughters who have no choice but to sit through that kind of thing.
And, I love the way you throw the racism word around. Way to deflect blame from what the pastor actually said.
By the way, if McCain’s actual pastor (not Hagee) said such vile things, I’m sure you would argue that it was OK for McCain to have that pastor marry him and his wife. That wouldn’t bother you at all would it?
MJ "revoltingpawn" said
I apologize since did mistakenly state John Hagee was McCain’s “spiritual adviser” when Pastor Rod Parsley who I also did mention in the post holds that position. John Hagee did endorse the Republican candidate which McCain actively sought. This oversight does not change the point presented in the post.
Dude…
My first question is did you check out the links in the post? I can’t defend the aids comment from Wright but his other “controversial” comments that media showed in short clips where taken out of context which was the point of showing video of the whole sermons. If look at the links and see the words of Parsley and Hagee that is not a concern for you? Obama already has said he went to Rev. Wright for spiritual and not political advice. Not good enough for you?
The racism concern is how the media handled this story. FOX News for a while became the “best” of short clips of Rev. Wright 24/7 with no real actual look deeper into the story. The only real mainstream journalism seen on the story was the CNN blog link I gave which as far as I know has not been aired. Obama is the first candidate who can win that attends a black church and it seems to have become a scare tactic which seems to work with the public. Somehow McCain (and past Republican Presidents) who associate with fundamentalist and evangelical pastors (like Hagee and Parsley) get a free pass for their hate filled words. Don’t see a double standard at all?
The Dude said
The ‘whole’ sermon doesn’t make it any better (neither did MOnday’s fiasco, where Wright backed up everything that was “taken out of context”). It’s still hate speech and if the same words came from a white man about another race, you would agree that its hate speech. The post about Hagee makes it very clear that you condemn the right and not the left. By the way, Hagee’s (odd) interpretation of biblical text is a little different than telling thousands of people that their government is actively trying to kill them with no evidence at all to back it up.
I’m not christian and I don’t agree with Hagee, but I can see the difference between accepting an endorsement from a popular pastor and sitting in the pews of his church for 20 years.
Also, the Wright issue is a story by itself, the Obama story is his lack of judgement and understanding of the American people if he didn’t think this was going to be an issue.
OH and you obviously don’t watch Fox News, you only read blogs about Fox News. They covered the story from all sides.
MJ "revoltingpawn" said
Dude (or the The Dude)…
Sorry you did not a have better understanding after hearing the whole sermon. Please don’t compare the words of Rev. Wright to Hagee or Parsley who really do deal with hate speech. I don’t agree with everything that Rev. Wright has said and yes some of his words are strong and controversial but the truth often is. He is a black man who lived before the civil right movement and has a different perspective on things then say you or me. I see nothing wrong with him speaking against racism of white people past and currant. The Rev. Wright has been speaking in public for over 20 years and sure he has said some bone headed things and prescribed to some strange conspiracy theories. Who hasn’t at one time or another? I tend to think the official story of 9/11 does not jive and some people think the warning on global warming is some type of conspiracy theory also.
I guess it’s all right for McCain to accept the endorsement of Hagee because he is popular (that’s scary in it’s own right).
The Rev. Wright ‘controversy’ is a manufactured story by the media and other political types to distract us from real issues like the failing economy, real intolerances in socity, and the unneeded war in Iraq where Americans are still dying. Not to mention to give us a reason to be afraid of the black Presidential candidate.
I already commented on your blog that yes, Obama made a mistake in the judgment of the American people on this issue. Most people do not go beyond the sound bite on a story and are easily manipulated and a fearful lot so a ‘controversial’ story like this will not go away. Now that Obama was politically forced (and by the Rev. himself after Sunday) to denounce the Rev. Wright can we now get back to issues and never speak of him again. Yes? Yeah, that was sarcasm and the video clips will play on forever.
I am sure FOX News covered the story from all sides but that does not mean they were balanced in regards to it. When the story broke that weekend they had the video clips it seemed on continuous loop. FOX News tends to turn into a PR machine when say they need to promote starting a war in Iraq, defend McCain scandals, or striking down black Minsters. Please don’t start on the liberal media thing… I love it when conservatives say they see liberal bias but yet me being a progressive I should be able to see it would you not think? What passes for liberal these days is centrist ideas that flirt with pretending to be on the left. This happens because 90% of all media (TV, radio, newspapers, and magazines) is owned by like six corporations. The mainstream media narrows down the political spectrum of coverage with certain viewpoints discarded all together and what remains is turned it into a simple one or the other of left and right. Oh, negative coverage of George Bush is not a liberal bias but just the side effect that he and his policies are a joke. I think the media has really always been easy on him and his administration. Hell, the media never even looked into the Bush “facts” in regards to Iraq before the war. Sad…
Ok, I am going to end this comment now. I need to put this energy into some new posts…